Interview: Ellen Hayes
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Musical Beginnings:
Can you describe a specific moment or performance from your early days in the church choir that had a significant impact on your decision to pursue a music career?
The pursuit of a music career has always been part of the end goal. I can recall on 3 different occasions and 3 different songs that I had written for the choir had a phenomenal impact on the congregation. This is not just one time but consecutively for years. And still today has that same impact when they are sung. Those songs are “The Holy City” God Will Supply” and Be Still” all three songs were lead and written by me. They became staples in our church and affiliate churches and were requested very often. But being in a group for twenty plus years, there were also specific moments in church that led to my decision. Although the first and only goal is to Worship and praise God so that He gets all the glory. But when your worship experience spills into the congregation and they began to worship, it’s such a gratifying experience. One that can’t be ignored or put back in the bottle. Being part of a group, someone has to be the leader. We followed the leader of the group but also was able to make suggestions and add our creativity to the arrangements. It wasn’t until the group era ended and that crave to sing, write and arrange songs didn’t. Although I was a choir director, that still wasn’t enough. I wanted the world to hear what God had placed on my heart through my music. So, in 2012, I released my debut album with Producer Michael Mindingall titled “Step Into your Blessing”.
Family Band Dynamics:
How did working closely with family members influence the creative process and dynamics of the group? Were there any challenges or advantages unique to a family band?
Working closely with family members was a complete joy. Each person brought unique gifts to the table. Our harmony and blend were phenomenal. We had many laughs, but we also had each others backs. We rehearsed tirelessly each to achieve our goal and our unique sound. One good thing about family is, those of us who had small children were able to bring our children to rehearsal if we couldn’t get a sitter. I know that sounds peachy. But there were also times when we didn’t agree on several things. Sometimes we voiced our opinions and sometimes we’d push it under a rug to keep peace. But anyone could tell when we weren’t on the same page because the atmosphere was different. But in efforts to prevent a situation from growing into something bigger, we talked it out, so everyone had an understanding of what needed to happen, and what was going to change. Overall, we had much respect for each other and became much closer during our 20 years of performing together.
Songwriting Evolution:
How has your approach to songwriting changed since you started? Are there any particular experiences or lessons that have significantly influenced your writing style?
I think learning to play the organ at age 7 and the first genre I learned was jazz had me being a lover of jazz at a young age and has influenced my writing style greatly. Although I try to write more traditional songs now, they still seem to come out with a slight jazzy sound. I try to be true to my style l, although I wish I could do other styles like that foot stomping hand clapping southern style. But when I try, it may be upbeat but somehow a jazzy or R&B spin has found its way in.
Community and Support:
How has your home church and community supported your musical journey? Can you share an example of a moment when their support made a difference?
There are quite a few moments. Just to share a few, my position in the church as a choir director has been great support to my musical journey. I have written so many songs and have been allowed the creative freedom to show my work to the choirs. So, my church choirs also sing my songs. They even sing songs that has not been publicly released. I was able to record the choir in my latest release Another Chance. My pastor who is also my uncle has certainly been a great supporter from day 1. My children have supported me through thick and thin. My children are a group of writers, singers, arrangers, teachers, healthcare professionals, chefs, mortgage brokers etc… you name it, everyone has their own lives but yet they make time for me. Whenever I need background or lead vocals, or part harmonies all I have to do is call. I look to repay that favor one day soon
Balancing Genres:
With your upcoming projects including a diverse range of genres, how do you balance maintaining your core musical identity with exploring new styles?
Even when I explore new styles it still sounds like my work. I have a couple of songs not yet published, and I’m debating on whether or not I want to publish them. One has a gospel rock genre and the other has a strong 80’s funk vibe. I wrote them a while ago but haven’t done anything with them as of yet. Every now and then I will pull them up and take a listen to see if I’m ready, but it usually results in me putting them back up. I love other mainstream music. I don’t listen to it constantly because I wouldn’t want to lose myself in someone else’s style. I have to balance it because when God is speaking through me, I want to hear what he’s saying to me.
Personal Growth:
How has your personal journey and growth over the years influenced your music? Are there specific life events that have shaped the themes you explore in your songs?
Life certainly has a way of teaching you, giving you humility, patience, hope and grace. I believe my mindset has matured and become humbler over the years. My themes have been consistent but have also become more personal, relating to things I have suffered through and have overcome. But the overall theme is and has always been about God and His goodness.
Collaborative Experience:
Can you share more about your experience working with the producer and musicians on « Another Chance »? How did their contributions enhance the final product?
My producers never fail me. If I slip up, they catch me. They challenge me but also give me creative freedom. Some of the musicians for this song are musicians I have used on previous projects, so they know me and already know what I want. But I still explain anyway, lol, I value the contributions of my producers and musicians on « Another Chance. ». The musicians, especially Ernest J Lee on keys, brought a new level of artistry that enhanced my vision for the song. Their ability to understand my style and elevate it shows true talent and dedication to the music. Collaborating with experienced musicians who can enhance your work is essential, and it’s evident that their contributions have made « Another Chance » even more exceptional.
Audience Feedback:
What kind of feedback have you received from your listeners, and how does it impact your future projects? Are there any particular comments or stories from fans that stand out to you?
There are different scenarios, but one comment in particular stands out to me. A member of my church who was there for the recording of another chance had a diagnosis of cancer sometime after the recording. When the song released, he was in the hospital. He found out it had been released and said he started listening to it starting around 3am and couldn’t turn it off. He said the song was so encouraging letting him know he had another chance, and that God was in control. But this is not the only reaction. There are so many more stories like this one. Too many to name. The feedback from listeners, radio, playlist curators, family, friends, church family has been very positive. I’m sure God has more hits to give me for the future. As long as God give them to me, I will continue writing and arranging them.
Balancing Roles:
As both a solo artist and a member of a choir, how do you balance these roles? Do you find that each role brings out different aspects of your musical abilities?
Being a solo artist and a choir director has given me great experience. Because writing for each is different. I have written for a smaller group, myself as a solo artist and a choir. I’m thankful for this opportunity. My work with the choirs is mostly on weekends. I do compose during the week on certain days to prepare for the weekend. In between those times, I find time for my solo projects as well. I am always looking for ways to enhance my musical abilities. I look to expand my genres in the future toward country, Christian, quartet
Future Plans:
What are your long-term goals for your music career? Are there any particular collaborations, venues, or milestones you hope to achieve in the near future?
My long-term goals don’t really include performing. Maybe occasionally I will but the real goal is to get into songwriting full time so that it’s my main source of income. I would love to write for Maverick City Music, Tasha Cobbs Leonard, CeCe Winans, and more. Although I know Kirk Franklin is a gospel music and songwriting genius, I would love if he became interested in one or more of my songs to redo Kirk style. As far as venues, since I’m not really looking to perform often, whatever venues any of these superstars choose is fine with me. As far as milestones, it used to be to win a Grammy. Not so much now. If it happens believe me, I will accept it. But I’m not fighting for that anymore. If I can make a solid comfortable living off of my music that would be enough for me. As long as I can write and is of sound mind, I will be writing music.